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	<title>Comments on: Automated Linework &#8211; an Alternative</title>
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		<title>By: gREG Wagstaff</title>
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		<dc:creator>gREG Wagstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason Hickey:

We are trying to make this procedure work.  We are apparently not pasting the right info to the clipboard.  Can you advise:

Thanks,

Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason Hickey:</p>
<p>We are trying to make this procedure work.  We are apparently not pasting the right info to the clipboard.  Can you advise:</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Joe McManemin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe McManemin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I inserted (VL-LOAD-COM) on a line immediately before (setq vrsn (vlax-product-key)). But I get: Unknown command &quot;CONNECTPTS&quot;. We could use this routine.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I inserted (VL-LOAD-COM) on a line immediately before (setq vrsn (vlax-product-key)). But I get: Unknown command &#8220;CONNECTPTS&#8221;. We could use this routine.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Hickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Hickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt K - before I followed the link, I thought you had found some magical breakthrough on how to collect field data...this is a workaround that I wasn&#039;t expecting...I like it, and have done a bit of further testing based on yours and Matt A&#039;s comments...

True, if you go to the point group properties, you can&#039;t get the point list - however.....If you pick the first point number in the point group &quot;spreadsheet&quot; style view, hold down shift, and select the last one, right click and select copy to clipboard, you can start the polyline command, then invoke the &#039;PN transparent command and paste them in order.   If you select them as they are (not comma separated) then they paste in with a space (enter) after each one - but as long as you&#039;re in the &#039;PN transparent command, it still works.   So, Mr. Anderson&#039;s comment will still work, you&#039;re just not picking the points as you think you should.   (I got tired of typing &quot;Matt&quot;)

Try it - I&#039;m going to try a bit more testing before I roll with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt K &#8211; before I followed the link, I thought you had found some magical breakthrough on how to collect field data&#8230;this is a workaround that I wasn&#8217;t expecting&#8230;I like it, and have done a bit of further testing based on yours and Matt A&#8217;s comments&#8230;</p>
<p>True, if you go to the point group properties, you can&#8217;t get the point list &#8211; however&#8230;..If you pick the first point number in the point group &#8220;spreadsheet&#8221; style view, hold down shift, and select the last one, right click and select copy to clipboard, you can start the polyline command, then invoke the &#8216;PN transparent command and paste them in order.   If you select them as they are (not comma separated) then they paste in with a space (enter) after each one &#8211; but as long as you&#8217;re in the &#8216;PN transparent command, it still works.   So, Mr. Anderson&#8217;s comment will still work, you&#8217;re just not picking the points as you think you should.   (I got tired of typing &#8220;Matt&#8221;)</p>
<p>Try it &#8211; I&#8217;m going to try a bit more testing before I roll with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Mishler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Mishler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 00:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about that! My setup autoruns that line so I forget that 2008 doesn&#039;t by default.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about that! My setup autoruns that line so I forget that 2008 doesn&#8217;t by default.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Kolberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Kolberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 00:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, you need to have a (vl-load-com) in the beginning.  We could get away without this in 2007, but not in 2008 apparently.

It failed when it got to (vlax-product-key) without it.

Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, you need to have a (vl-load-com) in the beginning.  We could get away without this in 2007, but not in 2008 apparently.</p>
<p>It failed when it got to (vlax-product-key) without it.</p>
<p>Matt</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Mishler</title>
		<link>http://www.civil3d.com/2007/07/automated-linework-an-alternative/comment-page-1/#comment-44556</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Mishler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 23:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Matt! Just thought you should know, if you haven&#039;t seen it yet, this article jogged my memory banks. I had started writing a lisp to do this last year and got sidetracked. I finished it up today and have posted it to the Adesk C3D customization group, the C3D community site and theSwamp. 

Thanks again, without this article that routine would probably never have seen the light of day.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Matt! Just thought you should know, if you haven&#8217;t seen it yet, this article jogged my memory banks. I had started writing a lisp to do this last year and got sidetracked. I finished it up today and have posted it to the Adesk C3D customization group, the C3D community site and theSwamp. </p>
<p>Thanks again, without this article that routine would probably never have seen the light of day.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: MAnderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>MAnderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt -

Fidley sticks, I probably should have opened Civil 3d 2008. I may be recalling Land Desktop functionality on Groups.  After selecting description keys, the summary tab would return a numberical list of points.  

I don&#039;t see it in 2008. 

Matt Anderson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt -</p>
<p>Fidley sticks, I probably should have opened Civil 3d 2008. I may be recalling Land Desktop functionality on Groups.  After selecting description keys, the summary tab would return a numberical list of points.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see it in 2008. </p>
<p>Matt Anderson</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Kolberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Kolberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anthony, it&#039;s not you.  When you draw a regular polyline, yes, it snaps to the first elevations and stays there.  If you used a 3dpolyline, it would snap to all elevations.  Of course, if the point style supports that.

Mike, that may be a good idea.  I never thought that might work.  If a  point group is defined by desc, how can you copy the point numbers?

Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony, it&#8217;s not you.  When you draw a regular polyline, yes, it snaps to the first elevations and stays there.  If you used a 3dpolyline, it would snap to all elevations.  Of course, if the point style supports that.</p>
<p>Mike, that may be a good idea.  I never thought that might work.  If a  point group is defined by desc, how can you copy the point numbers?</p>
<p>Matt</p>
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		<title>By: MAnderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>MAnderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not use the point groups to sort the Toe-L from the Toe-R?  The resultant group will create the string of point numbers that you can copy and paste into the &#039;PN range list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not use the point groups to sort the Toe-L from the Toe-R?  The resultant group will create the string of point numbers that you can copy and paste into the &#8216;PN range list.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Rhodes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Rhodes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have done this in the past with great success.  I have noticed my polylines end up with the same elevation at all of the vertices reguardless of the point elevations.  I have not had the chance to figure out how the program &quot;picks&quot; the elevation for the polyline being drawn.  I am guessing it uses the elevation from the first point used to develope the PL.  Is this something that happens for everyone or is it just me?

Thanks,
Anthony</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have done this in the past with great success.  I have noticed my polylines end up with the same elevation at all of the vertices reguardless of the point elevations.  I have not had the chance to figure out how the program &#8220;picks&#8221; the elevation for the polyline being drawn.  I am guessing it uses the elevation from the first point used to develope the PL.  Is this something that happens for everyone or is it just me?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Anthony</p>
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